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Harry Potter is the sixth horcrux, RAB is Regulus Black
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I read it and I liked it. I went early Saturday morning at 12:30 over to the local Barnes and Noble. I found that the parking lot for the whole strip mall was full. I have never seen that before. I looked in the window and there must have been 200-300 people inside snaking through the shelves waiting to pay for a book. There was a store employee with a green wizard robe standing on top of a table and shouting at people with a megaphone. I decided that I was not going to wait around in that mess. Later this morning at 7:00, I went to Wal-Mart and picked up the new Harry Potter Book for 47% off the cover price.
Note: *** HERE THERE BE SPOILERS - Don not Click Read more if you have not read Harry Potter and The Half Blood Prince (Or Order Of the Phoenix for that matter). ***
It is just amazing that a BOOK generates so much interest. The only other reason a bookstore would be that full is if the author was appearing there in person. J.K. Rowling?s book sales rival the Beatles record album sales. "No book has ever sold so many copies in so little time. We will sell 50,000 copies an hour - less than one per cent of books sell 50,000 copies in their lifetime," said Steve Riggio, the chief executive of Barnes & Noble.
I read the book during an eight-hour stretch which also included meals and a trip to the beach to go swimming. My wife took up the book that afternoon and finished it Sunday evening.
My wife is a "supersleuth." This is her official title since winning the grand prize at a professionally hosted murder mystery party at a restaurant. She has the T-shirt to prove it. She has deduced that the R.A.B stands for Regulus A. Black. The locket that could not be opened amongst the Black Possessions is probably the missing horacrux. (See Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix: CHAPTER SIX - The Noble and Most Ancient House of Black) She also says that having Dumbledore dead is all part of the plan and still trusts Snape, even though he [snuffed] Dumbledore. Snape entered the Unbreakable Vow knowing what he would have to do. For my part, I believe that Snape is playing both sides. As stated in the very first book, it is the Dark Arts that Snape fancies. However Snape?s aims and Voldemort?s are not exactly the same. Snape believes that a potion will put a stopper in [mortality]. While Voldemort embarked on a more insidious plan to [snuff] people to split his soul. What Draco says is correct; Snape wants all the glory for himself. Snape was already high in the confidence of Voldemort confidence playing the double agent. He was also high in the confidence of Dumbledore. Now Severus Snape will be right next to the throne. But he does not aim to be a servant; instead he aims to be master. He also sees Draco Malfoy as a willing servant.
The concept of the Horcrux was explained. We could already figure out in Book 2 that the diary of Tom Riddle contained a piece of the soul of Voldemort. When Dumbledore counted the number of Horcruxes (or Horcruces you decide), the location of the seventh one is unaccounted. I went to add my speculation to Wikipedia, and found that not only is the Horcrux article created, but my speculation was printed already there as well.
from The Wikipedia article
One issue with the horcruxes accounted for is that at the age of one, Harry Potter destroyed the physical form of Voldemort. As Voldemort himself describes being "ripped from [his] body", it would seem that this seventh body-resident soul fragment has special status. Whereas the fragments residing in inanimate objects may be destroyed (as with the diary), the body fragment survives, "pegged" (as it were) to the mortal world while the remaining horcruxes are intact.
Yet another possibility is that on the night that Voldemort [snuffed] Harry's parents, he turned Harry himself into a horcrux (and in so doing, created a horcrux which "belongs" to Gryffindor). This is supported by Dumbledore saying that Voldemort left a bit of himself in Harry. This horcrux creation seems to have been accidental, however, since Voldemort appears to be ignorant of it. He would hardly attempt to [snuff] Harry if he knew the latter contained part of his essence. As such, Harry would probably have to [snuff it] to make Voldemort mortal. This would be why the prophecy states that only Harry has a chance of defeating Voldemort. There has been no confirmation that Harry is one of horcruxes of Voldemort.
This is why Voldemort needed Harry for his "back to life" spell. Not only was Harry providing "blood of the enemy", but also a piece of the soul of Voldemort. Harry is the seventh piece. Most particularly, the Scar is the horcrux.
The Black Family Names
As I have said before, a rudimentary knowledge of Latin and literature gives away the characters. It was apparent to me rather quickly that Sirius and the black dog in Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban were related.
- Sirius comes from the Greek. The etymology and meaning of the name is uncertain. Sirius is called the Dog Star by virtue of the name of the constellation in which it lies.
- Regulus is Latin and means "The Little King". According to Allen the name reflects a common belief that the star ruled the affairs of heaven. Rex is another Latin name for the star, meaning "The King." A further name for the star is the LatinCor Leonis, meaning "The Heart of the Lion." This name reflects the position of Regulus in the figure of the Lion as it is usually visualized.
- The name Bellatrix is Latin, meaning " The Female Warrior". Therefore this star is sometimes known as "The Amazon Star".
- Andromeda (Tonk's mother) is named after a constellation. Andromeda was the daughter of King Cepheus and Queen Cassiopeia of Ethiopia
- Narcissa is named after Narcissus in Greek mythology. Narcissus was the son of the river god Cephissus and the nymph Leiriope; he was distinguished for his beauty. His mother was told that he would have a long life, provided he never looked upon his own features. His rejection, however, of the love of the nymph Echo or of his lover Ameinias drew upon him the vengeance of the gods. He fell in love with his own reflection. Interestingly enough,
Draco is also a constellation (the Dragon). Narcissa kept her Black family heritage going.
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Posted on Monday, July 18, 2005 @ 17:00:43 UTC by BB
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Re: Harry Potter is the seventh horcrux, RAB is Regulus Black (Score: 1)
by BB on Monday, July 18, 2005 @ 17:09:07 UTC
(User Info ) http://www.group29.com | | Searching for RAB Regulus Black on Google sent me to this VERY INTERESTING essay.
Check out:
Nick's Canadien Cafe [www.ualberta.ca] for July 16th. He has some great insights. I am placing my bets with him. |
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Soul Amulets=horcruces? (Score: 1)
by BB on Monday, July 18, 2005 @ 17:15:28 UTC
(User Info ) http://www.group29.com | | In the Dungeons and Dragons Monster Manual (1978), the articles about Demons and Devils talk about how they keep their vital essenses/souls in amulets or artifacts. Control of the amulet allows control of the demon. Destruction of the amulet (very difficult to do) would probably result in destruction of the demon. However, the Monster Manual is a little sketchy about that. Demons and Devils (and Dieties) are permenantly destroyed on their own plane. And you get more treasure too! |
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Re: Harry Potter is the sixth horcrux, (Score: 1)
by BB on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 @ 13:11:35 UTC
(User Info ) http://www.group29.com | From Chapter 23:
He made seven Horcruxes?" said Harry, horror-struck, while several of the portraits on the walls made similar noises of shock mid outrage. "But they could be anywhere in the world — hidden — buried or invisible —"
I would think that only a [DE] might know where Voldemort hid his Horcruxes. Regulus Black was one known [DE] who backed out and was [snuffed].
Voldemort has been trying to [snuff] Harry, so it seems that Voldemort is unaware that he has been missing part of his soul. The scar is a connection and a bond.
"I am glad to see you appreciate the magnitude of the problem," said Dumbledore calmly. "But firstly, no, Harry, not seven Horcruxes: six. The seventh part of his soul, however maimed, resides inside his regenerated body. That was the part of him that lived a spectral existence for so many years during his exile; without that, he has no self at all. That seventh piece of soul will be the last that anybody wishing to kill Voldemort must attack — the piece that lives in his body."
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Different twist (Score: 1)
by kpr on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 @ 12:26:53 UTC
(User Info ) | I've read several Harry is a Voldermort horcrux theories and think it is a possibility.
My theory is that Harry could be a horcrux for Snape. This could be the reason Voldemort's curse was deflected and the reason Dumbledore trusts Snape completely. Snape knew Voldemort's plans to [snuff] Harry ahead of time and alledgely was remorsely - Dumbledore could has put the screws to Snape and forced him to prove his loyalty in this fashion (I think it is pretty clear that Snape had [snuffed] before and split his sole).
Question: at the end of the 4th book, Dumbledore was very pleased that Voldemort was wrong about the nature/origin of Harry's protection - could this fit with a Snape theory?
Question: Who is Neville's toad Trevor? It seems clear that the toad is looking for something in the castle. Could Trevor be Regulus Black? |
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Re: Harry Potter is the sixth horcrux, RAB is Regulus Black (Score: 1)
by mbacano on Friday, July 29, 2005 @ 15:21:38 UTC
(User Info ) | I also got the feeling that R.A.B. could be regulus black. I even think the A. stands for Alphard. name of Sirius's, therefore regulus's as well, uncle. Alphard could then be after the other side of the family! Question is, did he got only one of the remaining horcruxes? or did he get any more?
And did he actually destroyed them? or will the have been in grimmauld place all the time?
perhaps some of those artefacts are the ones kreacher has been so keen on saving...
If voldemort had already made his 7 horcruxes by the time he tried to [snuff]baby harry, wouldn't the piece in his body have been destoyed, leaving only 6 pieces left?
Or did it got to harry becoming as you say harry him self one of the horcruxes, explaining harry's link to voldy?
I also believe that Dumbledore was right after all to trust snape and that he wanted snape to [snuff] him, and perhaps leaving a charm, identical to the one harry's mother left on harry. this protective charm of dumbledore could be to protecte harry or Hogwarts.
other teory is that it was the final sacrifice to make, like in chess, so that snape gets voldemort's complete trust and tries to find out what and where the other horcruxes are.
but point is, that I believe Snape will be the ultimate surprise, even larger than this one proving he is on the dark side, would be one proving he's been on the good side all along!!! |
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Re: Harry Potter is the sixth horcrux, RAB is Regulus Black (Score: 1)
by Basti on Saturday, July 30, 2005 @ 16:38:04 UTC
(User Info ) | well, I don't think Harry can be a horcrux(or just part of it) for Voldemort!
Slughorn said that there is a special curse you have two speak to get your soul split up(after [snuffing]someone)..and as we all know Voldemort used Avada Kedavra when he tried to [snuff] lil' harry...----> so you see that does not fit together!
all right: "why isn't voldemort's seventh part of his soul destructable as well as the other horcruxes??"
I think that "he, who must not be named" did not make 7 horcruxes!!!! Just 6! the last part of his soul is "the base" or something...that part is indestructable as long as there is a horcrux left!!
Snape: yeah...as someone's said before, snape might be the surprise in book 7!! Snape had no choise! He HAD TO [snuff]dumbledore otherwise he would have been [snuffed]ed! remember? unbreakable vow? when you don't act as you promised to, you die...so...Malfoy was to weak to [snuff] dumbledore (mentaly, but I think he would not have been powerful enough even if he had made it to use avada kedavra though dumbledore didn't have a wand..)....so I think Snape going to tell voldemort that Malfoy [snuff]ed dumbledore!! voldemort is not able to use legilimency on snape because he's such a good occlumens...malfoy also was tought in occlumency by his aunt...so...everything worked out the way that malfoys mother seemed to have known @ the very beginning of the book!!!!!! |
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Re: Harry Potter is the sixth horcrux, RAB is Regulus Black (Score: 1)
by Kaos on Sunday, July 31, 2005 @ 22:13:51 UTC
(User Info ) | I also believe R.A.B stands for Regulus A. Black. On Order of the Phoenix Sirius told us Voldemort [snuffed] him, but he don't know the full reason of it.
I agree with your wife: I don't know if Dumbledore is really [gone] or not, but his [extinction] (or fake [extinction]) was planned by Dumbledore. Hagrid told Harry and Hermione that he saw a row between Snape and Dumbledore because the later wanted Snape to do something he was not willing to do. (it could not be related with Dranco, since Dumbledore told Draco that he knew all the time what Draco was trying to do, but never tried to stop him because, if he did, Draco and his family could be [snuffed] by Voldemort). When they returned from the Cave, the only person Voldemort wanted Harry to look for was Snape. When Draco was coming, Dumbledore jinxed Harry, not alowing him to intervene, even knowing that Harry could stop Draco at any moment, not just because Harry is better than Draco dueling, but also because Draco never knew Harry was with Dumbledore and, under the Invisibility Cloak, Harry had the chance to surprise Draco and stop him. Why would Dumbledore want Harry not to act and protect him? Voldemort also stated, many times, he trusts Severus completely. Come on people, Dumbledore is so much clever to believe Snape just because Snape told him he was sorry for have caused Lilly and James' [snuffing]s.Dumbledore faced not just Draco, but all the others [DE]s, with no fear at all. But, when he saw Snape, he spoke his name with, as the book tells us, with a note of pleading in his voice. Why would he plead, if he was not afraid of [end of life]? (he tells on the first book that [end of life], for the good minds, was just a new start, or something like it. He also says, in the other books, that Voldemort's fear of [end of life] was his greatest weakness). It looks like he was pleading Snape to not give up on the last moment, to do what he was suposed to do. It is supported when we see the description of Snape's face when he do it: "... and there was revulsion and hatred etched in the harsh lines of his face." Revulsion? And a last point: When fighting Harry, Snape just defend himself, not hurting Harry, and also stoping the other DE to do so. Why? Of course he could not [snuff] Harry, since Voldemort ordered so, but why not hurt Harry? Snape, hating Harry, his father and his godfather as he does, not willing to hurt Harry or allow other people to do so? And why, when fighting, he insisted on lecture Harry: "No Unforgivable Curses from you Potter"; "Blocked again and again and again until you learn to keep your mouth shut and you maind closed, Potter!" And, also, why Snape just lost control when Harry called him a coward? A Slytherin and DE worried about courage?
Another point: Why Dumbledore was so different this year? He was less patient than usual, having a more "heavy hand" with Harry, not allowing Harry to question his trust in Snape and being a bit more aggressive with Harry when Harry was not doing what he was suposed to do (as example, when he failed to take Slughorn memories), as with he was trying to impress on Harry a sense of urgency and concentration he never did before. He also had never told Harry, as he did two times on this book, that Harry's life was more important than his own life. It looks like he intended to make Harry act, to make Harry see that there's no way he could avoid his destiny, that he must fight and [destroy] Voldemort, not because the prophecy told him to do it, but because Harry could not live with himself if he not, at least, try it... a bit funny, since Dumbledore is the one who never wanted to [snuff], not even in a situation of great danger as that of the Ministry...
The idea of Harry being the sixth Horcrux (because, as Dumbledore tells Harry, there's just six horcruxes. Voldemort splited his soul in seven parts, six for horcruxes and one to stay in his body. That's the reason he never actually died, because this seventh part, that stays in his body,just can be destroyed when the other six desap
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My theory spurred from yours (Score: 1)
by Damaged5555 on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 @ 22:36:20 UTC
(User Info ) | There has been some talk about Harry Potter being a Horcrux and as I soon imagined the numerous possibilities it hit me, this fabulous theory:
Now here is where I add my speculation. If Harry is a Horcrux which I believe because the diary knew about Harry, whom he should not know because he was created when Voldemort was 16. However since the diary did know these details without coming in contact with the real Voldemort it only makes sense to assume that the diary had the same connection to Voldemort as Harry does making them both horcruxes.
Now if Harry truly is the last Horcrux this theory would reject the theory that the snake, Nagini, is the last horcrux. This would make Harry the Gryffindor portion of Voldemort’s horcruxes. I believe Voldemort is aware of this portion because he realized he did not completely die when he attacked Harry. It seems that making Harry into a horcrux took an extreme toll on Voldemort. It seems the spell casted on Harry created a different method of tear than a horcrux would on Voldemort’s soul. However you may still refer to it as a Horcrux.
My better judgment tells me that Voldemort did not expect this event to occur on the night he attempted [snuffing]. His intended [snuff] was to make his last Horcrux from the [snuffing]of Harry (check page 506 of HBP). It seems that Voldemort realized he had created his last Horcrux with Harry because he had not been able to encase his soul in the item he had planned to use after Harry’s [extinction].
It seems that Voldemort’s original soul was split and absorbed by Harry while Harry’s soul died from the Avada Kadavra because it is said that none can save themselves from the Avada Kedavra. This could be possible if Lily Potter gave her love to Harry by sacrifice in order to save him from the evil, Voldemort, within him. Voldemort would not realize Lily’s love would be within Harry because he would think the split of his soul by [snuff]ing Lily would be the portion in Harry. Besides, Dumbledore said that Voldemort was not familiar with this ancient magic. It seems Lily performed a prior incantation in the fashion of speaking numerous words in an ancient language as Dumbledore did in HBP when he released the protective spell off Hogwarts. Lily’s love could be what we see in Harry on a daily basis. Maybe Harry is more like Voldemort then he now realizes. Harry has the power of Voldemort, represented by his scar, but the heart of his mother, represented by his eyes. This spell could have been overlooked by Voldemort because of its complexity as well as its sacrifices or it is just ancient, you decide.
Now, if Harry is a horcrux it would explain why only one of them could survive but not explain how Harry has the power to overcome the dark lord.
While in the Pensieve, Voldemort asks Slughorn how to split the soul in order to make a horcrux, Slughorn replies, “By commiting [a snuffing]. [snuff]ing rips the soul apart. The wizard intent upon creating a Horcrux would use the damage to his advantage: He would encase the torn portion . . . There is a spell.” So you see, maybe Harry was saved by becoming a Horcrux. Maybe this was the ancient magic his mother used. Love would substitute the spell and save the person my encasing that [snuffer]'s split soul within his victim. Voldemort did say he felt he was being ripped, would he not just die if the spell was deflected. It is also said that the Avada Kedavra can not be deflected. This would still hold true if Harry merely absorbed the curse rather then deflecting it.
Could this be the power over Voldemort that the prophecy has referred about because at the moment love doesn’t seem to be Harry’s power it seems more like a weakness?
But maybe we do not understand how love can be a power. If it is true that Voldemort accidentally transferred, Harry would [snuff] Voldemort's true soul , supposedly the last. But soon after Voldemort died, he would soon come alive, which would be an ideal plan if Voldemort wished to live if Harry ma
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Re: Harry Potter is the sixth horcrux, RAB is Regulus Black (Score: 1)
by conspiradude on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 @ 23:45:38 UTC
(User Info ) | | I agree that regulas black is RAB and since ms. rowling stated that the two way mirror from OotP, it is possible that 1) someone else has the mirror 2)snape has it or 3)rab isn't really [gone]. and i think that its coincidental that ms. rowling is making only 7 books and (in the story) 7 horcruxes. by the way, does horcrux stand for something in greek? |
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Group29 Harry Potter Movie Reviews (Score: 1)
by BB on Monday, August 15, 2005 @ 18:35:50 UTC
(User Info ) http://www.group29.com | | Here is Link to the H reviews on Group29.com [www.group29.com]. This currently has reviews for the first three Harry Potter movies: Philosopher's (Sorceror's) Stone, Chamber of Secrests, and Prisoner of Azkaban. |
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